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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 11:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Greetings

Hey All, just found this site and was totally blown away at the vast Dead and Dead related stuff on here. Thanks to all who put time into doing this. Anyhow, I have a few question, why isnt there any Hot Tuna or JGB stuff? And I am despertly searching for a studio recordings of Crosby's "If I Could Only Remember My Name" from 1970. It had everybody who was anybody in San Fransico at the time at the demos and practice sessions to work on Crosby's new album. Unbelievable stuff!!! Jerry, Jack, Jorma, John, Grace, Phil, Mickey, Billy, Carlos, Spencer, Joey, etc. (thats all can remember) There's something ten 90 minute tapes that floated around years back. Of course I had them but someone didn't return them to me and I have missed them for ten years. Also would like to trade with any Cipollina fans out there. Thanks all and keep the faith Bush is almost gone!

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Poster: BryanE Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Hiya, Ssag
Haven't been posting here for all that long myself, but I'm sure you'll find as I have that it's a warm and wonderful group of boys and girls and there's nothing here but warmth and good cheer 24/7 with nary a discouraging word exchanged between anybody ever. No, really.

Now, that If I Could Only Remember My Name album by David Crosby and pert near anyone who was within shouting distance of the recording studio is one fine piece of work, I must agree. Sorry I can't pass along a copy of it. Wish I had one myself. One that hadn't been used as a cigarette receptacle and rolling tray, that is. Otherwise, I'd mail you my own vinyl copy, but fact is, that one in partickler has just too many fond memories scratched into it for anyone other than me to actually want to own it. And anybody else reading this who's thinking, "Hey, wait a minute . . . I though that dude lost it all in a fire and some dastardly act of thievery," well, I did. Except, that is, for a crate of them old-fangled thirty three and a thirds that had been at my brother's house for about 15 and a half years or so. But other than that, we got robbed, dammit!

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Hiya right back at ya.....I am still a deadhead too and if it wasnt for them I never would have found all this other stuff I am talking about. That crew made so much amazing music together. (Jerry, Phil, Mickey, Jack, Jorma, Barry, John, Peter Albin, Paul, Grace, Marty, David, Steven and on and on.) They all played on each others albums so, its all related and I can only hope the crack about it being a GD forum was a joke because we are all in this together.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

I don't really know what crack you're referring to, but, believe it or not, it really is a Grateful Dead forum.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 3:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Hey Brian, are you joking? You're not going to get all sensitive like some to keeping it strictly 100% Dead are you? Even if so this topic is completely relevant to GD as it was startied referencing the collaborative stuff all these guys did 68 ( 67 if you count Surrealistic Pillow ) thru 73.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 4, 2006 4:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Agreed; we were defn 'on topic' what with Jerry sitting in, and so forth. Good call, Johnny.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Dec 5, 2006 3:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

JOTS (and all responding in this thread)-
Let's try to get serious here, people, dagnabbit! This is very important work we're involved in here, all this quibbling and babbling and bibbling and dribbling over these crucial issues that are discussed.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go clean out the lint filter in the dryer!!!!!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 5, 2006 3:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Bryan! - you just reminded me that I need to put the washing in the drier - the perils of homeworking... But to make sure I keep it relevant to the true task at hand I shall slip on Boston Gardens 9-22-91 while I do so - a damn fine show in my estimation!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 5, 2006 7:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

WORK? Who said anything about WORK? If I had known there was going to be WORK involved I never would have come here.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Dec 5, 2006 2:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

That's right, WORK! Make good money, five dollars a day.

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Poster: JodyC Date: Dec 4, 2006 6:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Yeah, it was ajoke. I think the lack of JGB and Tuna are legal issues. shnflac.net may cure you on both counts. Thought there was tuna on dimeadozen.org and JGB at least on gdlive, maybe some Tuna as well under miscellaneous. Welcome aboard.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 3:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

yeah it was a joke. trust me I know

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 4, 2006 3:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

lmao!!! - guess i shouldn't have made that joke and then the obligatory following post (guess my sense of humor failed me on that one) - sorry


oooh - missed the earlier Kimock sarcasm comment you slid in there - nice ;) - that is a great show by the way

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 4, 2006 7:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Whoops--overdone joke; I was joking too...knew you were...we all were...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 3:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Nah, you failed Ssag ( possibly BrianE not sure about that yet ), you should be ashamed.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 11:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

HUGE Tuna fan here. There's hardly any Tuna anywhere. I get the idea that Jorma's being stingy or something. I have quite a Tuna TAPE collection but never have been able to upgrade to digital because I can't find any DL's anywhere and almost no one trades any. : (

Over at gdlive there's the PERRO sessions as well as that 12-15-70 if you're looking for some of those collaborations you mentioned. I'm a big fan of that stuff too. Love the original Starship album as well as Baron Von Tollobooth and Sunfighter etc.

I have a handful of Chip but again they're on cassette. The best place I've seen to get this obscure type of stuff is Sugar Megs but they're MP3 ( which if that's the only way you can get it then I don't see any problem myself ). The BIG problem I have with them is that they don't divide the tracks so you'd have to do that and I haven't been able to figure it out.

Rock on man - I like a lot of the SF sound myself ( although Jorma would probably hate being called that ).

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 4, 2006 12:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Johnny - are you my long lost brother or what? I love Jorma (world's greatest Finnish guitarist!) Kaukonen and Jack (devil, devil, devil of a man) Cassidy. - Burgers is one of my absolute touchstone albums. Did you take a look at the Good Shepherd clip that AshesRising posted up the other day? Jack soloing way up the neck of his bass - totally awesome! And I loved Blows Against the Empire, Sunfighter and the Baron. Shit, I'm sounding like a fan instead of a cool Scotsman...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 4, 2006 1:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings: Rob & Johnny

Holy crap--huge fan of the Baron, Sunfighter, etc. Had them on 8 track tapes, albums, made cassettes, etc.; Jerry is great in his studio work of the early 70s with these folks...

You guys made my day reminding me of that stuff; really nice.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 4, 2006 1:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings: Rob & Johnny

Hello again WT - That whole seventies West Coast thing was like mother's milk to me - formed my musical tastes right up until now. Always been a sadness to me that I could only participate from afar via the studio releases - if only there had been an Internet in those days!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 1:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings: Rob & Johnny

How about Slicks solo album Manhole? Doesn't have Jerry on it but there are some cool tunes on it.

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 1:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings: Rob & Johnny

Oh yeah this stuff makes me cream my pants. Which is why I am looking for the 60 minute version of "Make the Mountains Be My Home" with Grace on vocals from that 20+ hour session that was around a while back. Incredible stuff

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 12:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Sorry missed this one, strange they way this is set up, you relly have to keep your eyes open and go abck and forth alot. Not complaining though. Its still a killer site. Yup, thats the catagory I fall into the SF sound mostly. Mostly Cip first,then into Jack/Jorma then onto the Dead.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 1:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Nows as good as any time to mention this - I got into the Dead COMPLETELY ass backwards. Because I was born in the Bay Area I kind of always had a fascinition for it's history including music of course. Anyway, in my early teens I discovered herb and coincidentely watched Woodstock on PBS. That scene with Country Joe and the Fish where Barry Melton was flaunting that joint was something I really indentified with. It seemed to reflect a rebellious attitude without being all pissed off at the world.You know having FUN. So anyway I started getting into them then the Airplane ( after I discovered something else )then Tuna. I didn't get into the Dead until a couple of years later. Only had heard Truckin and the usuals and just didn't hear why they were so " out there" of course later I got I'm happy to say.

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 1:37pm
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Funny I went the other way. First Dead show was Lewiston Me 1980 but I was 12 and didnt understand but kept seeing them in the New England area but I was already turning to Tuna/Cipollina at that point. Still managed to see 300+ Dead shows by running around the States as a wide eyed youth. But first thing upon moving to San Fran in early 1988 was go straight over to the Saloon in N.Beach to see Fish and Chips. I still travel down there as much as Barry will play which isn't that often anymore. I see Jerry Miller all the time up here where I live now which is nice and an the old Fillmore house band PH Phactor (anyone remember them?).

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Hey Rob - I only have an older sister who used to narc me out for everything I did wrong but never did anything wrong herself for me to get any dirt on her. I'll gladly welcome you as my brother : )

Didn't see the clip only because my PC takes FOREVER to load video. Wish I was able to burn DVD's, I have a killer one from Fillmore 3-4-88. Do you know it? Fantastic show.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 4, 2006 1:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Hey there, bro! My sister is 10 years younger than me but she still takes me on about stuff. My Mac is well past its sell by date but at least I have a good broadband connection. I can't burn DVDs either - which now and again pisses me off mightily! Sadly I don't know the Fillmore show you mention.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 1:48pm
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Wish I had it on CD ( only on tape ). It's the "reunion" show that helped lead up the Airplane reunion the following year. It's Jorma and Jack with Kantner then a revolving cast - Slick, Papa John, Will Scarlett. They do a couple of Airplane numbers too. REAL good. If you ever get a chance to snag it do yourself a favor and get it. I'll do the same if I ever see it on CD

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 11:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Right on the money I totally forgot about all the stuff, I used to have it all but like everyone its a long story. I love all inter-band jamming. You are the man and thanks for the arrow to where I would like to go.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Dec 4, 2006 3:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

if it hasn't been noted, there's a David and the Dorks DL available at GDLive. Look in the Misc area. Four Tuna shows for streaming have shown up over at Wolfgangs VAult...and I think a couple of shows are on Sugramegs.

Failed to mention seeing Grace flash her titties during a "Ride My Milktrain" in Cortland '75. Probably not as firm today.

http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/Concerts.aspx?stype=artist&id=2942

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 11:52am
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Good as place as any to mention this - yesterday I watched an old VHS I have of some Fillmore stuff. First the Dead doing Hard to Handle then China>Rider, then the Airplane doing Sat afternoon and Pooneil and then the big all star jam. Never a big fan of the huge all star jams except the novelty of it. Anyways - the sh*t Jack was playing in Pooneil was just absolutely KILLER. Man he beat the Sh*t out of that thing playing all these massive chords, just massive. Another reminder of how great he is and especially was back then. Just a HUGE HUGE sound, should have been considered up there on his instrument the way Hendrix was on his. Hard to find many comparisons during that time.

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 11:57am
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Hendrix loved Jack and he's bassest on Electric Ladyland. Rumor had it it's him on the whole album even the credits say only Voodoo Chille. Jimi tried to replace Noel with Jack several times. Funny enough I used to have a Jimi tape from the Fillmore with Jack as the bassest for the whole show. Another one of the lost tapes I spoke of. He was the man. I found it hilarious on one of the Mickey and the Hartbeat shows on here. All the Deadheads are going on and on about how Phil was on that night and the whole time they were listening to Jack play. LOL No offense to anyone but Jack is the king of bassest's.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:11pm
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I didn't know this--that he really wanted Jack in the band, etc. Cool. I always liked Jack; have you seen the video on "Airplane Flies" or something similar (widely available comm release)? He (and all the rest) come off well in that one, except for running off the original drummer...never liked the replacements (for bass--was it 'Sears' or some such in Starship? Can't recall this level of details for a non Dead band...sorry!).

You obviously know your bass playes, and so I am curious: I think that Jack Bruce is the best of the best (I like Phil, Jack C, Entwistle and a few others for a top ten sort of thing). However, when I mentioned him here, it was ho-hum, reception wise.

What do you think of him? I only know his work with Cream, but what he did with G Baker (Clapton is okay, but Baker is God as far as drummers go for me) in that band was amazing.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

Is it " fly Jefferson Airplane?" That's the only one I know of but haven't seen it : (

Better go get it : )

I like Pete Sears. He's no Jack but I can't hold that against him. Last few years he's been playing keys ( and accordian )for Jorma/Tuna and adds a nice touch imo. Talked to him at a show once, real nice guy. Then again so is Jack. REAL cool. Jorma didn't seem too interested in saying hi but that's ok, not there to try and be their friend, there because I love their music.

I think the original Starship was good but only up until 75 or so then who knows how the hell they got to be so bad. Too much booze and coke I guess but then again we all know Jorma went off the deep end and managed not to sell out.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Greetings

do you know that this is a grateful dead forum, take this conversation somewhare else man!!!!

:-P

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:34pm
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Yeah well up yours! Hey they played together, that counts!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:42pm
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testy testy - you do know i was joking i hope?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:43pm
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Of course man! Don't go gettin all sensitive on me now : )

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:46pm
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LOL I cant do that I am an East Coaster at heart. I leave that to you West Coast born folk (j/k)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:27pm
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It ain't a busted up old hound dog forum either so take yer howlin' elsewhere!



(You know I like you really - good luck tomorrow, buddy,)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:31pm
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lol

:)


thank man

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:23pm
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Hey Johnny - there's a nice Pete Sears/Steve Kimock show on the Archive - Boulevard Cafe 11-24-02 - you might want ot give it a listen if you haven't already,

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:38pm
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Thanks for the tip. Would love to check it out. THERE Dire, we're talking Kimock now. HAPPY? : P

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:25pm
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Yes--that is it. It is a nice one (I have seen alot of these band flicks of late) in that it does lots of interviews, BUT lots of live performances too. Grace is good to see and hear in those early days...

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:39pm
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Yes I meant Jack Bruce..... its the drugs of past. ;) but still a true story.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:18pm
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Jack Bruce is definitely one of the world's finest bass players - hell he's a Scot why wouldn't he be? :-)

You ever heard Danny Thompson? One of the greatest ever acoustic bass players, member of Pentangle and long time collaborator with Richard Thompson (no relation) and John Martyn.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:25pm
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Danny is freaking great! I've seen him many, many times with Richard and just think the world of him.

Recently bought the 5 CD RT box set and love it. Can't get enough of Richard.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:27pm
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That's right (scottish Bruce); well, that settles it. We irish can tolerate a brit but a welsh or scotsman, that's all the better in our common historical struggle...

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 4, 2006 2:37pm
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Yes I meant Jack Bruce..... its the drugs of past. ;) but still a true story.